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of it anyways. number one, ayman al zawahiri, the long-time number two to osama bin laden, communicating with an organization that's considered even more danger, nasir al wahsyshi. he's experimented with exploding clothes, clothes impregnanted with explosives, not to hide bombs but clothes that are bombs. but this isn't about an exploding shirt. this is said to be, according to sources that talked to nbc news, something big, that the head of al qaeda ordered to do something at the end of ramadan and that's now. when they talked about that, larry, the u.s. government listened and that's what kicked off the biggest alert since 9/11. >> steve handelsman over the weekend, congressman peter king, very knowledgeable guy, he said they picked up specific dates, specific dates. do we know anything about that? >> reporter: what we're told, larry, is that the conversation, and it may have just been one, it's such big guys and they so avoid communicating and if there was just one conversation it's because of they communicated and because of who they were. and the communication we're told specified t
al qaeda, we decimated the top leadership and we killed osama bin laden and the main number two or number three leaders. i don't think anything he said was inaccurate. the reality is al qaeda has been reconstituted in different satellite organizations across the region. so we have al qaeda in libya, for example. al qaeda in the sudan, for example. so it's not just the old al qaeda in afghanistan or iraq. al qaeda is taking different forms and shapes and that's the reality that the state department -- >> repeat my question. he said we decimated al qaeda, okay? he said they were not the threat that they once were, however you wish to paraphrase it. our clips were pretty specific. have they now, thankfully, changed their position about the al qaeda threat? is that what you hear about this announcement? >> no. this is an administration that's been ever vigilant in fighting the threat since they came in office. they were focused about getting osama bin laden from the beginning and they've been executing drone strikes at a rate faster than the bush administration and by the way, that'
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